@unfa tbh all the alternatives are quite crappy.
not to mention having terrible terms of service and privacy policies.
you know that mailing lists and IRC is what linux kernel developers use, right? it has been working for them for many years
some of the things that come from the new platforms/services/etc, like emoji, images, videos, etc are things not everyone wants.
@obsoleszenz @unfa tbqh for myself I dont need any of those.
@falktx I understand that developers can get it to be comfortable, and get things down with it, but whenever I am forced to use IRC, I suffer.
I cannot fix typos in my messages.
I cannot read a message that was sent when I wasn't online.
I cannot send screenshots to get or give help.
Everyone is in a single room so with 5 conversations happening at once it's a huge mess. I understand that it works for some specific groups or people - but I don't think
"normies" or even "users" are part of that.
@unfa it is all a question of finding the right tool for the job. on IRC you can create as many channels as you want, so for example there is #lad and #lv2 for development, #cardinal and #kxstudio for those specific things, etc
You can DM people if you rather only talk to them of course. If there is a lot of people talking at once, just wait a bit until topic clears, and then have your turn.
@unfa
Not being able to fix typos or send screenshots is quite intentional. you cant do that either with raw text emails, and people still use it on a daily basis, using references in whatever style they prefer, either inline or as [1] and [2] etc.
Now the lack of history is both good and bad IMO. Sometimes you do not actually want history, if conversations are meant to be a volatile thing.
When we really need history on IRC we just setup something dedicated for it. Either a bot or a bouncer.
@unfa Not sure if this will be readable, but I am uploading how it looks for me.
This is just a terminal with irssi which I have running remotely, so I am always logged in, thus have history. I only need a terminal and internet connection in order to go talk on IRC 😊
@falktx @unfa I think ircv3 and especially ergo.chat as a ircd could bring irc to 2022. The most interesting ones are chathistory, always on without a bouncer, message/account tags and proper web client support. Also check out the lounge as a web client, it even supports voice messages/file uploading/link previews... Techy people love irc because it's so simple, ircv3 also makes it extensible.