@marcan@treehouse.systems this could easily be said about many software projects.
some folks wants stuff to work nice and stable, but do not want to put in the work themselves to help make it so.
with how many developers there are out there, it is a bit sad that so few (sometimes none) volunteer to take care of base infrastructure.
perhaps the result of a systemic problem.
X11/Wayland just being one of critical pieces involved. the same story to be repeated soon with other critical system libraries.
@falktx @marcan also want to point out that considering that it is sad that *noone volunteered* is kinda the problem here. Since when volunteering to be hurt to help others with no support and nothing to get in return, what do you expect?
Why should developers out there "take care" of something that it seems no one really want?
Why are the users that want it so much not taking care of said devs? isn't *that* a bit sad?
@Di4na @marcan@treehouse.systems I am glad they did, and hope we get to keep X11 things working for a while, because we are still in a transition period.
It is nice to want things to move along, but we need to provide a path for that to happen that doesn't involve having to deal with broken things.
Users are complaining for a reason, for as much as devs have been saying to "move to wayland!", they cannot do that when the tools they rely on do not work.
@Di4na @marcan@treehouse.systems that breaks trust in an instant..
if we dont plan on maintaining something, maybe we shouldnt create it in the first place?
we have difference expectations on this. for me, keeping our software going or giving it to someone else when we no longer can do it ourselves is the reasonable thing to do.
the world relies a lot on software nowadays, but we treat it as some kind of disposable toy.
@falktx @marcan no we do not need to. It would be nice if we do. But we owe people that use something we *gifted them* nothing.
I like being nice, but saying we *need to provide it* is, quite literally, a toxis abusive relationship. Like textbook.