@marcan @falktx @Di4na True, but I think this is moving away from the point raised by falctx, that developers WOULD move to wayland if there was better tooling.

Its one thing to say, "Hey, stop using that, we're making this instead" and another thing to say "Hey, stop using that, use this instead. oh, and BTW we broke all the things you give a shit about but are going to push this on you instead"

@marcan @falktx @Di4na It's like we've learned nothing about how systemd was deployed and presented to the community

@marcan @falktx @Di4na Like, if it wasnt for the windows 8/8.1/10/11 debacle, I can totally see why windows is the dominant OS.

@alexandria @marcan @falktx More precisely it is "Hey we did this thing, we moved to it, this thing you were using before is still around and open source. If you have needs the new one does not cover, you are welcome to help us make them happen in it *or* you can maintain/pay someone to maintain the old one, but we decided not to because we care about our mental health."

@alexandria @marcan @falktx Windows is the dominant OS because, among other things, they can afford to pay a frigton of people to keep the old stuff working. We would happily do that if we had comparable money to pay Linux developers. We do not. By a laaaaaarge margin. You are welcome to start finding way to fund that work though, we have run out of most ideas at this point.