falktx @falktx@mastodon.falktx.com

I keep writing about it, not sure if annoying or cool...

Anyhow, file dialogs for importing and exporting patches, samples etc works on the the Cardinal web thingy now.

Can upload mp3 files and play them. Previously loaded files are kept in memory, so they appear on the list.
Neat 📸

Cardinal weby web thing now better, loads modules without tripping. 🚀
https://falktx.com/data/wasm/CardinalSynth.html

Added the missing ValleyAudio and ChowDSP that failed to build before.

And there is file open and save, though you need to save first before you can open. Dont ask...

Maybe later with WebMIDI this can be even more useful. Maybe touch events too, why not.

For now I am happy with the results. Great progress in just a few days, something that was mostly for trying out and testing. But works so well!

Updated Cardinal web thingy again, now with 899 modules. 😂
https://falktx.com/data/wasm/CardinalSynth.html

I am actually amazed this works as well as it does.
I skipped ChowDSP and ValleyAudio, everything else just built as-is without changes.

Made some changes to the page loading layout too, so it resizes with the window now.

There is still a "crash" when adding modules, but you can click away (outside the module browser dialog) to close it, and the module will be on the Rack.

oh hey, it is Cardinal in the browser!
https://falktx.com/data/wasm/CardinalSynth.html

Still very fragile, very early steps.
But the whole thing is there, and amazing that it renders just like the desktop version. 😱

This is VERY promising!

Oh and the Kars and Nekobi options now play something too :D

No one asked for this, but have you thought of running Carla and plugins on the browser?

I have been studying and testing web assembly recently, using emscripten to compile regular C++ code.
There are quite some restrictions and quirkiness (everything runs on the main thread, even audio), but with some effort it is possible to make it work.

First real test, Ildaeil-Synth.
https://falktx.com/data/wasm/Ildaeil-Synth.html

1. select "Audio File" from the list
2. click "Load plugin"
3. enjoy some music

@odo in a perfect world yes, but plugins that embed their UI on a host window will always be tricky for this.
the plugin can be a bad actor and steal all keyboard input from the host, or it can rely on host to feed it events through specialized APIs like those in VST2 and VST3, or it can use regular windows/view events from the OS (which depends on host setting that up properly).

there are many ways to go about it, and every OS works differently. try to do drag&drop, things are even worse

@odo but it is the same problem, all resorts to keyboard focus fights.

I have the same opposite experience. Dealing with this on X11 seems pretty easy, just a single X11 call away, while on macOS and Windows it is more complicated.

It all depends on the implementation of the host and the plugins.
Some hosts will send raw keyboard events to plugins, some will send vst2/vst3 specific events, some will send none. And a few hosts change behaviour when a "give focus" button is pressed. 🤷

@odo it is the eternal fight for keyboard focus. hosts do not want plugins to take away from its shortcuts, and plugins want to grab all keys regardless of host.

there are no real solutions, only workarounds.

Cardinal 22.06 release is here!
https://kx.studio/News/?action=view&url=cardinal-2206-released

Has a few new modules and quite some bugfixes.
Enjoy!

Quite some fixes done on Cardinal side today, but no release. One thing I want to fix got sidetracked while we found a few other things to fix on stream.
But there is always tomorrow.

Hmm peertube no longer announces streams, but starting one for Cardinal 22.06 release preparations.

https://peertube.kx.studio/w/1TgCc6ur8NvKjiHHF3C9gv

Still testing the waters, dont expect quality content 😊

Preparing things for yet another Cardinal release.
It is kinda being 1 per month, so why stop now.

Updated module docs, you can see the new ones in https://github.com/DISTRHO/Cardinal/blob/main/docs/CARDINAL-MODULES.md

No release today, will try tomorrow.
If you spot any unreported issues on the nightly builds, please speak now!

@gustavom @onepict @dachary@mastodon.online @sigsegv @unfa then great because https://git.kx.studio/ is already a thing, using gitea 🍵

I am going to start doing some live stream tests in the next few days, trying to setup everything needed for a smooth experience.
Feel free to ignore them, best to have no pressure to make them look good at first.

Will let you know once I have everything sorted out

@onepict @dachary@mastodon.online @sigsegv @unfa I do not know of any, if you do please do tell!
though I did not look for it recently...